I've heard that the coldheat iron is basically useless for anything more than the most basic of jobs. If I understand correctly, it works because it has two electrodes which conduct electricity very well and heat very poorly so they can run a heck of a current through the object you want to heat up enough to melt solder, but they don't absorb any of that heat. The problem is, the tips are bulky and hard to position, and require that the desired joint can be placed between them. Result: forget about soldering DIPs or in fact anything smaller than through hole resistors and caps. Of course, I've never used one, just heard others talk of them. They are cheap enough now (<$20US) that it may be worth checking out. I suspect for the sort of thing I always wish I had a portable iron for (i.e., soldering a wire to something which is attached to something else by 200 screws) it may work very well. Mike H. > Thanks for that, I've never thought it over that it generates a huge heat > sidewise. BTW battery operated soldering irons: the so called ColdHeat iron > is not any good? It says heats up to 400C within seconds and cools down > nearly as fast. I thought it does not flats down the battery too quick? Or > the problem is something else? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist