> > > Now I'm in a grad program with artists and engineers working together > and I'm sure everyone is sick of hearing me preach about bypass caps. Did you ever run into this "bypass solution"? VCC---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Chip Chip Chip GND---------------------------------------------------------------------- cap cap cap cap VCC---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Chip Chip Chip (and so on.) The caps are connected between the rails, but they are connecting VCC on one row of chips to ground on the OTHER row. I've not actually had a board like this in my hands to measure recently, but I suspect this might be worse than NO bypasses. I remember seeing a lot of boards laid out this way back in the 70's and 80's though. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist