> does, which I *really* like because I really dislike dealing with XTALs > for proto work, since keeping an XTAL running on a breadboard > sometimes can be a unique and educational experience Can't say I've ever had major problems breadboarding but if you're that worried about it use a can. Surely you can't / shouldn't restrict yourself to the internal oscillator ? It might be convenient and cheap but it has its drawbacks too -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist