Olin Lathrop wrote: > The price of a PIC for one-offs doesn't matter much anyway. The same > argument goes for why not pay a little extra for a 28 pin part versus > a 18 pin part. How often does that extra little space saving matter on > a hand built design anyway? It occurs to me that the main thing I really use the 40 pin parts for are "Zero Offs". That is, stick the part on the solderless breadboard, prove that I can in fact do what I need to do with a specific built in peripheral, then go figure out what PIC I really want to use for the design, then "fixate" the design using the real part. The '877 was great in it's day simply because it had one of everything in the product line built into it... If microchip made a 16F part with a specific building block, it was in the '877. The "reduced pin count" versions of the '877 didn't have all of the ports which the '877 did, so the '877 was the good "generic, don't worry about whether the block is there" part. Besides being out of '877's, the main thing that brought me to the realization that the '877 may need a "Replacement" in my prototype parts collection is that it didn't have the built in 8Mhz osc that the '88 does, which I *really* like because I really dislike dealing with XTALs for proto work, since keeping an XTAL running on a breadboard sometimes can be a unique and educational experience. -forrest -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist