> Currently I turn on pinswappability in eagle and munge the PCB, but > the schematic comes out ... extremely icky. my way arround this for interchangable pins is to draw the schematic then if there is an issue where i'd like to swap pins i just go back to the schmatic and make the change there then update the pcb file from the schematic (you can certianly do this in altium i dunno about other packages). -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist