> > if you use a broad enough definition of religion then i suppose you > > could call it a religion. but you are casting the net > far too wide > > imho. there is no worship in hai. hai is about > relationships between > > people. > > At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'd like to > point out that Buddhists do not worship, either. If you > follow your narrow definition of religion, then Buddhism is > not a religion. Some will be horrified to learn that from what I have seen of it, I don't classify Buddhism as a religion. Having said that, I would REALLY rather not see it discussed here. Mostly because I fear the rage of all the other/real religions. I'm also starting to think that love isn't a great topic for conversation. Although it is quantifiable in many ways, we humans seem to romanticize it to a point beyond logic (not surprising huh?) and make it into something that is next to unknowable. Trying to understand love and how to make it work in positive ways is a laudable goal, but not one that is likely to be accomplished on this list. Those who want more on HAI or AA or Buddhism or Cannabis or what the heck ever have lots of ways of finding it on the internet. The original post that started this thread was news, and valuable news for a group like ours. If anyone sees something new that is probably of interest, please do post it. Also, learning that we are a VERY diverse group with all sorts of different lifestyles, experiences, and sometimes common problems was a good thing over all. If someone wants to tell us how they have been pulling off the trick of living upside down for the last several years or how they managed to accomplish something unusual or interesting with solid results, I suppose it won't kill us to hear about it. But we really should try to keep the OT chatter to a dull roar if at all possible. Lets talk about something more on topic; like how to give robot emotions, ("Does my Asimo love me as much as I love him?"), Why MS will own the world in 50 years ("Lord Emperor Gates, the benevolent"), or What is better: C or C++ ("Objects! We don't need no stink'n objects!") Ok, that last bit was sarcasm in case you didn't catch it. --- James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 phone http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist