Ah Ha I remember a bit about this from many years ago... Using a taped inductor and a capacitor it is possible to pull the current so far out of phase with the voltage the electric meter (works on mechanical ones) goes backwards when a high current (cooker) is consumed. Not exactly sure how these work but the inductor is taped and the capacitor is taken from N to the tap and the line current through the whole winding. I think there was a magnetic shunt in part of the winding and it was defiantly a gaped core about 3Kva frame size and it was wound with about 8mm wire. I have seen one but it must have been 15 yrs ago. Maybe this is what it does but I doubt it... Steve -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Scoville Sent: 24 January 2007 15:44 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: [EE] Energy saving product? Yeah right. Hi Piclisters, My boss has asked me to evaluate a device (which I can't get a hold of to see) which supposedly saves gobs of money on electricity (sound familiar). Anyway, this device, hooks to the incoming power. My initial reaction was "Oh, power factor correction". My boss says "oh no, they say this is not power factor correction". Ok what is it then. Nobody is telling me. This is all I am being told - I don't have any details. Some of the claims for this magical device... (Feel free to laugh out loud at some, most or all of these) Motors run cooler Light bulb and ballasts run cooler Transformers, panels, switchgear, breakers, starters, controls run cooler SCRs, diodes, switching transistors and microprocessors all run cooler Switching power supplies are more stable Process and production controls are more accurate and reliable Air conditioning and refrigeration is more effective and reliable In-House and outside maintenance and repair labor costs decrease Equipment repair and maintenance parts cost decrease Light bulb and ballast replacement costs decrease Costs to production or process downtime are decreased Computer data is more secure and safe Computer operation is more reliable and safe Communications systems are more reliable Lights flicker less I do know you can save some $$ with power factor correction - but I seriously doubt some of the above claims. For example, how is hooking a gizmo to my mains going to make my uP run any cooler? Light bulbs run cooler? They do stop short of telling me my hair will grow back and I'll lose 20 pounds. I'm curious to hear comments from the list on some of the more "interesting" claims :) Have fun. -- Mark Doesn't matter what your business card says... We're all in the results business. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist