Mark, I don't see anything about it in you post, so I'm assuming the answer is no, but it begs to be asked anyway. "Does your boss have a name for this product"? Even if you can't hold it in your hand, you might be able to find out something about it if you have a name. (obviously). Or how about a manufacturer? Or is this still a Developmental product? How long has this product been available? Or how long has it existed in whatever form it is in? Where (how) is it sold and/or distributed? Is it, or was it, developed by industry, by a university, or by a private company? There are all sorts of questions I could ask. See if you boss has any answers to these. If I come up with anything, I'll let you know. Good luck. Regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Scoville Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:44 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: [EE] Energy saving product? Yeah right. Hi Piclisters, My boss has asked me to evaluate a device (which I can't get a hold of to see) which supposedly saves gobs of money on electricity (sound familiar). Anyway, this device, hooks to the incoming power. My initial reaction was "Oh, power factor correction". My boss says "oh no, they say this is not power factor correction". Ok what is it then. Nobody is telling me. This is all I am being told - I don't have any details. Some of the claims for this magical device... (Feel free to laugh out loud at some, most or all of these) Motors run cooler Light bulb and ballasts run cooler Transformers, panels, switchgear, breakers, starters, controls run cooler SCRs, diodes, switching transistors and microprocessors all run cooler Switching power supplies are more stable Process and production controls are more accurate and reliable Air conditioning and refrigeration is more effective and reliable In-House and outside maintenance and repair labor costs decrease Equipment repair and maintenance parts cost decrease Light bulb and ballast replacement costs decrease Costs to production or process downtime are decreased Computer data is more secure and safe Computer operation is more reliable and safe Communications systems are more reliable Lights flicker less I do know you can save some $$ with power factor correction - but I seriously doubt some of the above claims. For example, how is hooking a gizmo to my mains going to make my uP run any cooler? Light bulbs run cooler? They do stop short of telling me my hair will grow back and I'll lose 20 pounds. I'm curious to hear comments from the list on some of the more "interesting" claims :) Have fun. -- Mark Doesn't matter what your business card says... We're all in the results business. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist