> >> Not sure I know the difference between feeling blue and being > >> depressed. > > > > If you don't know the difference, you've never had chronic > > depression. > > > > Imagine: > > 1. A dark cloud in your brain that slows down your thinking and > > makes > > everything more difficult. > > 2. Not caring about anything. > > 3. Loss of sex drive. > > 4. Difficulty sleeping. > I've been reading this thread with only mild interest. Now you've got my attention. I currently suffer each of the above to _some_ extent. I've had some variety of health problems in the past, and I'm currently considering a variety of possible causes. Depression was not on my list. The greatest relief I've found so far, though it was only passing, began when I woke from having my Gall Bladder removed. I felt absolutely WONDERFUL, beginning only a few minutes after I woke from the surgery. Its removal was not for gallstones, but for a long-undiagnosed infection that was affecting my general (and mental) health. Please, I don't mean to detract at all from those suffering depression. I'm not claiming to be anything but a very interested reader who wants to find his own path to a better life. Unfortunately, mood altering drugs are a bit dangerous for me, but I'll be reading and learning whatever I can from this thread. James, congratulations on twelve years. Keep Coming Back. Lyle -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist