> I think Jinx would balk at spending several times more on tools than > on the materials to do the job Yes, he would For now I've sheathed armoured Olflex in hose inside buriable pipe, with a low open end so that water can't fill it, and labelled the path -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist