James Newtons Massmind wrote: >> The trouble is that depression is not just unhappiness. >> >> It is more the feeling of being surrounded by a dark cloud >> that stands between me and the world. At least that is one of >> my types of depression. >> The other type is much worse. >> > > I do know some people who suffer from stronger depressions than I, and I > certainly agree that "mind tricks" are not enough for them. > > >> Zoloft barely keeps me sane. >> > > A co-worker of mine recently switched to errr.... Celexia? I'm probably > spelling that wrong. And the difference in her demeanor was amazing. > > >>> just by concentrating on it. For my mild issues, it works >>> >> most of the time. >> >> Concentrating on being happy works when I'm just feeling >> blue. When depression hits I either have to wait it out >> (months), find a long and intense adrenaline rush, or use drugs. >> > > Adrenaline rushes help? Like.... Race cars? BASE jumping? Roller coasters? > Kinky sex? > > I think there is a long term need for excitement (not stress) in humans that > is not met in civilized society. We spend too much time trying to be calm in > the face of annoyance and steady grinding rather than resting and playing in > between moments of pure terror while risking it all. Our bodies and brain > chemistry have not evolved fast enough to work correctly in the new world. > Just my theory. > > > This is an interesting discussion to me. I hope it isn't too far off the OT subject. I was never afflicted with depression until I began to experience the damage of Diabetes II. The effects are extremely demoralizing. The disease (high blood sugar) affects the eyes, the kidneys, the cardio system, and the extreme pain of neuropathy. Diabetes II is more of a disease of resistance to insulin, rather than an absence of insulin (Diabetes I). After 10 years of dealing with the effects of the disease, which slowly got worse, I began to experience heavy depression, and I have never really gotten "cured" of it. My body resists insulin so strongly now that I take a daily dose so high that, if a "normal" person took it, his brain would be scrambled into a deep coma. I can no longer feel a pinprick in my feet, and my hands are following suit. I have a open wound in my foot that won't heal; it is 30% "healed" after 14 MONTHS of intense wound care. I can barely hold a soldering iron, and cannot feel 0805s through a tweezer. I am forming cataracts in both eyes, and the retinas are being slowly damaged by the high BG. No matter how much insulin I take, my BG readings are NEVER below 300 (80 is normal). As a result of this and more, I am chronically, constantly depressed. I have taken Zoloft and everything else I know of, and nothing works. The only thing I have been able to control is the neuropathy, which I control completely with 6000mg of Evening Primrose Oil per day (4 gel tabs). But this "cure" is not sanctioned by doctors- they don't believe that it works- but it does. --Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist