On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 09:31 +0000, Alan B. Pearce wrote: > >> In the bedroom! My girlfriend (who is from New York) finds > >>it annoying that she can't dry her hair in the bathroom, > >>but it's the way we do it here. > > > >Wow, that sucks, especially the noise factor affecting other > >people. At least in the bathroom you can close the door. > > Most of the rest of us would hope the bedroom door closes as well ... Yes, but if one person is already doing something in the bedroom (i.e. someone called on the phone)... I'm nitpicking, my point is I don't personally agree that removing a "real" outlet from the bathroom REALLY improves safety (especially in lieu of using a GFCI). The lack of a "real" outlet is an inconvenience, and any time you inconvenience people for what appears to be no good reason they WILL do things to get around the inconvenience, usually in very dangerous ways. It's like at the gas stations in my area, at one point they all removed the little "latch" that allowed you to turn on the pump and walk away (to clear windows). Someone thought that latch was unsafe (and in the way they were right), so they all removed it. People all of a sudden had to stand there holding the nozzle. What did people do? They started using OTHER items to hold the pump level. Some of the things people used where heavy and off centre, sometimes causing the nozzles to fall out (if people didn't insert it enough), so you had situations where gas started spraying everywhere. Certainly, MUCH safer then if they had just left the latches... My point is, when you want to make something "safer", you can't just look at how to make it safer. You must also consider how people will react, what stupid things they will do to "get around" your efforts to make something safer. Often people will find the most clever and at the same time dangerous way to bypass your attempt to make something safer, resulting in a LESS safe environment then if you hadn't made any changes. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist