>I need pcb mount, but actually the kind where the 1.6mm pcb >can be wedged between the two pin rows. Wisp628 uses standard DB9 and DB15 connectors that way: http://www.voti.nl/wisp628/kit/a7-big.jpg The available distance between the pins varies a bit between manuafctureres, you might want try a few samples. I use 'random' manufacturers, but so far I haven't found a connector that can not be used this way. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist