> which is the cheapest 16F628A - Programmer being available in germany > ? Component cost only (value of your time is zero)? In that case a no-brains parrallel or serial port progger might be the answer. Otherwise a progger with brains: Wisp628, Pickit2, EasyProg, etc. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist