Use one of your friends programmers, zero cost... B.t.w isn't *ANY* programmer in the world "available in Germany" ??? Jan-Erik. Thilo Klein wrote : > Hello, > > which is the cheapest 16F628A - Programmer being available in germany > ? > > Regards > > TK > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist