Justin, On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:16:57 +1030, Justin Richards wrote: > > > > > Not quite true. A heat pump can run up to about 300% efficient in heating mode. > > > > RP > > -- > > I have often wondered about heat pumps and would like to clarify. I > assume a reverse cycle aircon (or even a single cycle) uses or is a > heat pump. > > I also assume that I can *move* more heat energy into a room than the > energy I use to move the energy. Is this correct. If so then I will > think of it like getting a large container of hot coals and moving > them into a room. I use less energy to move them than the coals are > giving off in heat. > > Is the analogy anywhere near correct. Yes, it's not bad. :-) The critical feature of the "300%" efficiency is that the heat outside the house is free. So economically it is correct, but physically it's obviously not. If it costs me X to lift a weight from the ground to the top of a mountain but I charge you 3X for doing it, I have made 300% profit, but that doesn't make me a 300% efficient machine! :-) > Another assumption I will make is that I can not say the same for > removing heat from a room using a heat pump. Ie I must use as much > energy to cool a room as the energy I am removing. Is this correct. No, there's nothing inherently less efficient in running a heat pump one way or the other (although its design and the relative temperatures may/will introduce a difference), so you should be able to remove 3X Whrs of energy for the expenditure of X Whr (or whatever unit of energy you like). There's nothing magic about 300%, either - over here units are rated in COP (Coefficient of Performance, I think) which is the ration of energy input : energy moved, and I've seen them with this figure slightly over 4 ("400% efficient" in the parlance we've been using). Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist