You really think or say that a device burning a dvd disc or playing music is using the energy for only to generate heat ? There occures some heat but it is obvious that the amount of energy used by the device is not equal to the heat it generated.I do not even mention about piezo materials. Yigit -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist