For starters the 16F676 are what I have... Also how many bytes of program space does the bootloader take up? Maybe I should redefine the question then how many and which components does a simple serial or parallel port programmer require? Where do I find a good circuit and software combination that can work it? Thanks! On 1/15/07, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > > On 1/15/07, Tobias Gogolin wrote: > > >You can't install the bootloader before the device is mounted? > > ts not maintainance friendly enough > > anyhow Xiaofan says my device does not support a boot loader anyway... > > > > Why not change to those PICs which support bootloader then? > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- ----- Tobias Gogolin cel. (646) 124 32 82 skype: moontogo messenger: usertogo@hotmail.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist