Imho a drill or power screwdriver fitted with an adjustable slip clutch is the way to go. A proper winder built with steppers (as shown in CC but also as proposed by me in the past century on this list) is better. It is expected that the winding stepper will 'slip', this slip provides the tension. Some of the best bobbin holders are self made using wooden dowels split down the length and sprained with a long screw and cones into the bobbin. They also center it perfectly. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist