> > > If you do have to wind them manually, remember that for every turn you > make > on the bobbin, the stock wire twists. And this makes it much easier to > break. Try to reverse this twist every few tens of turns and I suspect it > wouldnt break as aeily. Hard to explain in text, but it dosen't twist if you do it right. If you're rotating the core, and pulling the wire off a spool, it's fine. If you have the core still and are running the wire around it, then the wire twists. Think of it this way, a reel-to-reel tape never twists. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist