> I'm still trying to find out where all of these horrible retailers > are. :-) IIRC I have had this 'problem' with Digikey, OatlyElectronics, BGMirco and ElectronicGoldmine. For instance EGM nowadays has a shipping cost calculator for domestic USA, and that is what they first claim from my CC (even though there is a choice for 'shipping to Netherlands', which I selected). A few days (or sometimes weeks) later I get a message 'everything is packed, shipping is XX, total is YY'. I guess I could at that stage refuse the transaction, but that would be a bit unfair to the merchant who has already packed the order. But I guess it can also be very frustrating for the novice buyer who has checked the shipping cost and total amount that was specified on the CC transaction. I must add that the vendors are mostly reasonable about this problem. Oatly for instance warned me that 95% of the shipping cost was caused by 5% of the order value (a bunch of rugged keypads). EGM likewise informed me that one item (IIRC part of a POS terminal) was very heavy and hence expensive to ship. In the end I choose to buy again from these vendors, so I am not too fuzzy about it. In a way this problem helps my business: if Dutch customers could easily and cheaply buy one or two items from e.g. BGMicro I could not sell them the same item with profit! Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist