The freeware version of Eagle will probably suffice for now. www.cadsoftusa.com and browse around. Be warned that while it is a good program and can do most basic things, its libraries are a bit screwy and sometimes inconsistent. Olin Lathrop has a nicely done set of custom libraries somewhere in his www.embedinc.com web space. He will no doubt chime in soon with a link. That said, you could also consider www.pcb123.com which is owned by Sunstone circuits (www.sunstone.com). They also own www.pcbexpress.com and www.pcbpro.com. For quick, one-off stuff they are pretty reasonable. PCB123 has downloadable software that lets you do simple schematics and layouts. Another consideration might be gEDA at www.geda.seul.org. Haven't looked at it in several years. Rob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist