On Dec 31, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > can't you use 5V programming in a 3V circuit? Like making > the rest of the circuit 5V tolerant or creating some kind > of separation between the micro and the rest... Hmm. Suppose the rest of the circuit is NOT 5V tolerant, but you DO manage to isolate the PIC power, and the programming pins are dedicated to the programming function (NOT also connected to non-5V parts.) Do any of the other PIC pins become outputs with 5V present at any time during programming? (that is, if your circuit is NOT 5V tolerant, how much isolation do you really need to do?) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist