What supplier? You need just a good drawing on the copper...and a VNA to caracterise your "drawing". Vasile On 12/30/06, Zik Saleeba wrote: > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Looks like I'll be finding an > alternate supplier. > > Cheers, > Zik > > On 12/30/06, Russell McMahon wrote: > > > Does anyone have any experience with chip antennas? I'm designing a > > > handheld GPS as a commercial product and am keen on chip antennas > > > given their small size. I've been looking at these: > > > > No, but: > > > > > > There's a lot on Gargoyle. > > It seems that enough people make them that having someone who makes > > them supply you may be worthwhile. > > Also, eg the Freescale paper below suggest that alternatives MAY not > > be inferior > > in performance or cost. > > > > ______________________ > > > > Here, surprisingly, is a free to view letter re a new (in 2002) > > meander line design > > > > http://ma.icu.ac.kr/papers/2002_MOTL_meander.pdf > > > > ABSTRACT: This Letter proposes a novel antenna that has a small > > size and high gain features. The conventional chip antennas are made > > of > > very high dielectric materials that result in small size but > > inherently low > > radiation gain. Instead of using the dielectric materials, the > > proposed > > antenna has a small size while retaining high gain. The bandwidth and > > gain of this model, with antenna size 15 10 6 mm, have 9.0% (at > > 2.44 GHz, S11  10 dB) and 2.73 dBi, respectively. (c) 2002 Wiley > > Periodicals, Inc. Microwave Opt Technol Lett 34: 149-151, 2002; > > Published online in Wiley InterScience (www.interscience.wiley.com). > > DOI 10.1002/mop.10399 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Here's an interesting Freescale application note (20 pages) with a > > slightly Zigbee focus. > > > > While it only provides a couple of actual application examples it > > briefly touches on a very large range of alternative antenna formats > > and their attributes. At the end is a partially described loop loop > > antenna which they say has superior gain to an equivalent chip > > antenna. > > > > Compact Integrated Antennas > > Designs and Applications for the MC1319x, MC1320x, and MC1321x > > > > http://www.freescale.com/files/rf_if/doc/app_note/AN2731.pdf > > > > ___________________ > > > > Kim YD, Kim HY, Lee HM (2005) Dual-band LTCC chip antenna design using > > stacked meander patch for mobile handsets. Microw. Opt. Technol. Lett. > > 45(4): 271-273 > > > > ____________________ > > > > > > This may be generally useful > > GPS / GNSS biblioography 1998 - 2005 > > Superb resopirce for researchers and developers. > > No data per se - but what people are doing > > Here's the 2005 page > > http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/CORS/GPS_Bibliography/GPS_bibliography_2005.html > > > > _________________________ > > > > With Taiwanese companies like this making them (with a name brand name > > on this picture) it's arguably unlikely to be worthwhile buolding uour > > own > > > > http://www.coxoc.com.tw/product/detail.asp?myid=396&title_name=Antennas > > > > > > Home > > http://www.coxoc.com.tw/product/main.asp?titlename=Products > > > > > > > > Russell:: > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist