"Everything there is to know" about Peltiers including free design software for use as heaters, coolers and thermoelectric generators http://www.melcor.com/index.html Product prices are rather high alas. Their TEG design software shows that my target power output is achievable with a sensible albeit rather more costly than desired number of Melcor units. Even at (only) 100C hotside performance is bearable. Results with NNB (no-name-brand) modules yet to be seen. At 113 C *COLD* side and 200C hot side efficiency drops nastily (as expected) to about 2.5% BUT this shows you can run with boiling water as your coolant and a flame source as the hot side. The software will not let you design for Th > 200C (funnily enough). At 15C cold and 200C hot and a matched load, effciency of around 8% is achievable. (20% of Carnot efficiency of 40%). This is a commendable result. The greatest challenge is liable to be getting a suitably low thermal resistance cold side heat sink. eg at 200C hot, 15C ambient and 92 C cold side (!!!) using air cooling a 0.1 C/W cold side heat sink is needed. For 29.2 Watts out (my spec was 2A at 14V) heat flow is 800 Watt for 3.6% efficiency.. At 20% net efficency an 8kg LPG bottle would last about 20 hours :-(. Going to a 0.01 C/W nonexisteum heat pipe heatsink (or a stream) gives matched load efficiency of 7.7% (double) Matched to unmatched load efficiencies can vary by a factor of over 2:1 so use of a variable input-voltage power converter inverter to allow source tuning seems wise. My 10 x 68 W no-name-brand Peltier modules turned up yesterday. Haven't tried them yet. Stay tuned ... . Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist