Xiaofan

I think you are looking only at one side of the problem. The most serious 
one, is the fact that the US enrollment of students in the STEM (Science, 
Technology,
Engineering, Mathematics) fields has decreased SUBSTANTIALLY in the past few 
years because (IMHO) outsourcing has created a vacuum and students are
not interested anymore to pursue STEM studies. Graduate schools are worst. 
Of course this is simplified picture of the problem however it is true.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Xiaofan Chen" <xiaofanc@gmail.com>
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclist@mit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] The brawn drain ? US manufacturing moving abroad


> On 12/25/06, Peter P. <plpeter2006@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> NYT article (requires subscription but it's free - or use
>> http://www.bugmenot.com/)
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/business/yourmoney/24view.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
>>
>> Maybe this deserves a discussion, the US is not the only industrialized 
>> country
>> affected by this, by far.
>>
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/employment/2006-12-05-skilled-workers-shortage_x.htm
>
> I believe this is not that bad.
>
> I've just come back from US. I think the working environment there
> is really very good.  I also think US is a country blessed with natural
> resources and many talented people. In my opinion, no country can
> catch up with US in terms of technology any time soon (at least not in
> this century). China and India have a long way to go. And the cost
> in the better-off areas in China/India are increasing in a rate that
> they may soon lose the competitiveness.
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_13/b3977049.htm
>
> In fact, quite some business in Southern China are moving to
> cheaper places like Vietnam and Bangladesh. And for those
> exporters in China/India, I believe most of the profits go
> to companies in US/EU since the value chain is like this:
> The factory workers earn very little. The boss of the
> factory earns a bit. The exporter earns more and the
> importer/retailer in EU/US earn even more...
>
> And I also see there is a "reverse brain drain". A lot of the top
> talented people in poor countries are migrating to developed countries.
> I got quite some friends in US and they all like life in US quite a lot
> and they will stay in US. I am the only one who quit study in US
> and left US among many Chinese students I know of.
>
> Countries like Singapore are actually very vulnerable. The manufacturing
> cost here is much higher than in China/India but the R&D is much
> weaker than US/Europe/Japan. Luckily the government here is
> top-notch and manages to carve a niche.
>
> Yes there will be always some lower end jobs moving out of
> US/EU. However the manufacturing sector will always be an
> important sector and there will always a balance by ecnomical
> prinicples and even policy intereference. The strong R&D
> will always keep US/EU in the business of manufacturing.
>
> Regards,
> Xiaofan
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