> My point is you one doesn't realize how useful the ICD2 is > until you're > doing a project without the equivalent features. That depends a lot on your personal debugging sytle (and also somewhat on the type of projects you do). I have ICD2's around, and I have done things on ARMs with debugging interface, but I still mostly stick to the 'printf' style debugging. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist