The fact is that diesel is cleaner than gasoline in almost all aspects. Especially in important greenhouse gas emissions. Yes, given the horrendously low quality diesel sold in the US until this year, diesel did have higher NOx and particulate emissions in _some_ configurations and conditions, but not all. However this will change with the newly mandated low-sulphur diesel. Looking at actual data from fueleconomy.gov you find the following: Volkswagen Jetta, 2006 Engine MPG Cty/hwy Yearly greenhouse gas emissions/tons 1.9L Diesel 36/41 5.6 tons 2L Premium Gas 25/31 6.7 tons 2.5L 5cyl reg gas 22/30 7.4 tons Chevrolet Suburban 5.3L gas 15/20 10.6 tons 5.3L E85 11/15 8.6 tons 6L Gas 14/18 11.3 tons Honda Accord Hybrid Hybrid/reg gas 25/34 6.6 tons Mercedes E320CDI 3.2L Diesel 27/37 7.0 tons Lincoln Town Car 4.6L reg gas 17/25 9.3 tons Ford F150 Pick-up 5.4L gas 14/18 12.0 tons You can see that diesels do far better than gasoline engines in fuel economy and in greenhouse gas emissions. The former disadvantage in particulate emissions will be reduced or eliminated by the new low-sulphur diesel and by increased use of bio-diesel. Steve Ravet wrote: >> Now that refineries in the U.S. have been forced to lower the >> sulfur content -- diesel is a nice way to go. >> > > Diesel is bad news for air in the US. Europe may have diesels that are > as clean as gas but over here they are all, Mercedes included, really > dirty. The EPA OTAQ WWW page has an excel spreadsheet with every single > model. The jetta is worse than a 3/4 ton Suburban. Low sulphur diesel > may allow for better emissions control equipment, but it alone doesn't > make a diesel engine cleaner. > > What is the basis of your Jetta vs Suburban statement? The EPA ratings are based on mostly effect on human health, not on environmental impact. Certainly this is important, but also can be misleading when trying to compare technologies. It's a lucky coincidence that the more directly harmful emissions to humans are also the easiest to deal with. For example particulates. These can be simply trapped. Mercedes has already made huge strides with Blue-tec on NOx and particulates. Greenhouse gases are more complex, and more difficult to deal with. > >> The Nissan Titan wallops the current older-generation U.S. >> trucks for quality, fit-and-finish, and various other things >> -- while still maintaining a good price point -- but where's >> the diesel version? I need to TOW heavy things, and I don't >> want to lower my fuel economy to drop to about 8-10 MPG to do it. >> > > I don't think the Japanese make anything but a half ton pickup, do they? > > --steve > At present diesel is at least as clean as gasoline, and provides greater fuel-economy. However diesel technology has more room to grow. It's potential has yet to be maximized. Also, it's cheaper to produce than gasoline, and has higher yields from crops for bio-fuels than Ethanol. Not to mention Ethanol produces a lot less energy per acre than biodiesel. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist