IIRC, all it really does is reduce the applied voltage. Magic is in figuring how far - I'm pretty sure it's looking at the power factor. Early devices had a problem with motor starting; uP controlled devices probably handle this better. I recall seeing a display of one of these devices in a hardware store. It had a motor running, and a power meter display, and you could switch in the 'power saving' device. Very dramatic, fabulous power reduction. The motor was running with no load... GC > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Harold Hallikainen > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:33 AM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: RE: [OT] Stockton Engineer Creates Energy Saving Device > > I recall that NASA patent. So, what are the losses in a lightly loaded > motor, and what do you do outside of the motor to reduce them? > > Harold > > > > This goes back to a NASA patent from the '70's. Nothing > new. I suspect > > his 'patent pending' depends upon some minor new quirk or > its simply an > > 'application' and won't get any further. It's been on the market in > > many different forms, by many manufacturers. It does work, > but savings > > depends highly upon the application. Best for a > long-running lightly > > loaded motor - in many cases it doesn't provide any ROI, in fact no > > savings if the motor is sized properly in the first place. > I've seen it > > for less. I believe the same technology is already built into many > > high-end appliances. > > > > Here's the same thing: > > http://www.powerefficiencycorp.com/ > > http://smservice.com/pwrcomm.htm > > > http://mlmvs.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11458622/Nesly_Powe > r_Saver.ht > > ml > > > > Usually more than just power factor compensating capacitors. > > > > Gary Crowell > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > >> [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Klingensmith > >> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:43 PM > >> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > >> Subject: Re: [OT] Stockton Engineer Creates Energy Saving Device > >> > >> How much more vague could it be? It sounds like a free energy > >> device. I > >> don't know what it does. Nobody knows what it does. Are we > >> just supposed > >> to say "oh, cool" > >> I can't find any patents with his name either. Who knows. > >> -- > >> Martin K > >> > >> Jinx wrote: > >> >> http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_347191740.html > >> >> > >> > > >> > "Chuck Larue may be the man who drastically cuts your > >> electricity bill" > >> > > >> > Realising that the device seems to be just for motors, I > suspected > >> > that the press had gone all hyperbolic again - > "drastically" - but > >> > then thought about his customer base > >> > > >> > Do homes in the "US And A" ** have many motors, such as AC, > >> > fans, etc ? I'm pretty sure the only motor in most NZ > homes, being > >> > a temperate climate, is in the refrigerator > >> > > >> > Just a quibble - the article says that a 1/3 HP motor was using > >> > 180W. As a HP is (ideally) 746W that would make it a 1/4 HP > >> > and with heat losses you'd expect input W to be higher. Not > >> > picking on anyone, may not have been reported accurately > >> > > >> > ** Thank you Borat > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >> View/change your membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > -- > FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com - Advertising > opportunities available! > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist