At 11:59 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: > > But if you're powering the PIC from the handshake lines, anyway, how does > > connecting the transistor buffer to them versus the PIC VCC any different? > > There's no quiescent drain when you use a PNP transistor. > > > > Personally I've never been much of a fan of scavenged power, since I have > > owned several laptops each with at least quirk per port. > > >I am powering the RS232 circuit from a serial line from the other device, >not the MPU. So the other device is getting it's own signal back, the MPU is >just switching it, not being powered from it. You have the gate going to the outside world? Bad news. Very bad news. If you use a BJT, you should (must!) also add a diode to ground to prevent reverse breakdown of the B-E junction, even though the current is limited it can cause problems long-term. RS-232 receivers are normally loaded with 5K or so. A 10K to ground and a 10K to the base (any decent transistor like an MMBT4401 will do). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist