>Plus there are North American engines that make over >500lb/ft of torque, find me a euro vehicle with those numbers. Perhaps you need to watch the UK TV program Fifth Gear, where they took a stock brand new Bentley car down to a drag strip. It blasted whatever Yank Tank it was pitted against into the weeds - and not just by a car length or two, it was a significant portion of the 1/4 mile. However to be fair, while the car it ran against was of US origin, no claims were made for what motor was fitted, but I would have thought that anyone doing normal drag racing would have had some form of large V8 with super charger. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist