This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1802720785== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline For every action force, there is an equal and opposite reaction force. Can't change that. If you jump up in the air, pushing off from the earth, you move up AND the earth moves away from you in the opposite direction. Now certainly the earth's movement is infinitesimal, but it's non-zero. You have to apply that to your Suburban analogy. Yes the dog will slow it down. just not much. However, your analogy is flawed. Remember the falling floors aren't hitting a dog. They are hitting another large mass in the building below. A building designed to support the weight of all the floors above and their contents plus a fair safety margin. And all that building below is connected to the bedrock of the earth. Certainly a large mass. This would be why something has to break instead of all of it just passing the force on through the building. At best, I think a more accurate version of your analogy would be running your Suburban into your Tahoe, not your dog. Actually, it'd be more like running your suburban into a line of Tahoe's, parked nose to nose and expecting to crush through all of them to the last one without slowing down much. Pretty ridiculous. But very much equivalent to the official explanations. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reid" To: "'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.'" Subject: RE: [OT] Physics denies official 9/11 report. Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:08:51 -0700 This has been an interesting discussion, but the sheer magnitude of what happened is amazing. If I'm driving my Suburban at 60 miles per hour, and I hit a small dog, is that going to slow my vehicle down? 8000 lbs times 60 miles per hour equals a force of 480,000 lbs hitting the dog. Even if I hit a deer at that speed, yes it will damage my vehicle, but will it slow me down much? The twin towers were hit at different floor levels, but when they fell, there was incredible weight above the impact zone. Once they started falling, this mass probably encountered little resistance below. That is obviously why they fell so fast. How much conservation of momentum can there be when millions of pounds are falling on top of each floor? Look at the fact that many of the victims were never found, just pulverized into powder. That shows why type of forces were involved. This is like a person stepping on a bug. The bug gets squished instantaneously and doesn't slow the person down... -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of David VanHorn Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:07 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [OT] Physics denies official 9/11 report. On 12/6/06, tachyon_1@email.com wrote: > > You've got that backwards. Each floor falling, crushes the floor below, > which initially IS at rest (stopped) > and has to accelerate from a stop. It's not like it can magically go from > standstill to the speed of the impacting > floor in zero time. Correct, but only the first part has to accelerate with only gravity. The rest have a shitload of moving mass slamming into them, and so they come up to speed much quicker. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 4:07 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 4:07 PM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 Search for products and services at:=20 http://search.mail.com --===============1802720785== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --===============1802720785==--