>   You can see the Flightexplorer data for Flight 93 here:
>  http://www.aviationnow.com/media/images/news/wtc/ual93final.gif
>  http://www.avweb.com/other/ual93_2_full_sequence.gif

I hadn't noticed those links until now.  I suspect that FlightExplorer
primarily gets its altitudes from transponder data, and the transponder
was turned off before the descent.

GC


> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu 
> [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of gacrowell
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:26 AM
> To: piclist@mit.edu
> Subject: RE: [OT] Physics denies official 9/11 report.
> 
> >From this: http://911review.org/evidence/93/Flight-93_shot_down.html
> the approximate altitude profile was:
> 
> 08:40 - 09:00  Takeoff and climb to 35,000
> 09:00 - 09:34  35,000; hijacking occurs at ~09:28
> 09:34 - 09:39  climb to 40,000
> 09:39 - 09:46  decent from 40,000 to 20,000
> 09:46 - 09:59  decent from 20,000 to 5,000
> 09:59 - 10:03  erratic changes until crash
> 
> Wikipedia says many of the calls were from GTE Airphones.
> Other calls are described as short and sometimes cut-off, which would
> seem to agree with intermittent cell phone coverage.
> 
> The timeline here:
> http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/flight/timeline/timeline.html
> lists most calls occurring after 9:45.
> 
> GC
> 
> 
> >   > The Plane DID fly at 35,000 feet or higher the entire flight,
> >   > until it's final dive. This fact does not require any access to
> >   > flight data recorders. You can see this from the flight track
> >   > shown by Flight Explorer and posted here earlier. All 
> US civilian
> >   > flights are tracked and logged.
> > 
> >   Actually, I'm quite happy with that statement. The only 
> question is
> >   can a
> >   cell phone operate at that altitude, and you say it can't. 
> > Or it can.
> >   You've actually said both. My only comment was wondering why the
> >   hijackers
> >   stayed at that altitude.
> > 
> >   I never said both. You misinterpret "Cell phone calls 
> were made" to
> >   be the
> >   same as "Cell phones do work at 35,000+ feet" because in 
> > order to fit
> >   the facts as you want them to be, they must be the same. I have no
> >   such problem
> >   because I have no preconceived ideas about what happend.
> >   You take what you believe happened and try to make the 
> facts fit. I,
> >   and others,
> >   are trying to take the facts and figure out what happened.
> > 
> >   Presumably a GTE Airfone can work at 35000 feet, kinda defeats the
> >   purpose
> >   if it can't.
> > 
> >   However, these people aren't happy with 35000 then dive:
> > 
> >   http://www.patriotresource.com/wtc/timeline/penncrash.html
> >   http://www.unansweredquestions.org/timeline/timeline_ua93.html
> > 
> >   Maybe it's 35000 then dive then 2000 feet for a bit then 
> crash? The
> >   Flight
> >   Explorer link is a bit crude. More detail would be nice, ie last 5
> >   minutes
> >   by second.
> > 
> >   Not relevant as witness testimony and phone records show 
> many of the
> >   calls
> >   happened before the fatal dive, during the time the plane was at
> >   35,000+ feet.
> 
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