----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Smith" To: "'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.'" Subject: RE: [OT] Physics denies official 9/11 report. Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 01:08:08 +1100 > What amazes me, and this is not meant to be a snide comment at all.... > is that people expect the government (any government) to be open > and honest (caveat: I live in Canada, not the US, but politics is > fundamentally the same here). > > Why are people surprised that the real facts are different to > what was presented as fact before? The whole campaigning, > electing, lobbying, and other political processes are > predominantly based on at the best times compromise, and at the > worst times manipulation. The conduct required from a political > candidate to get elected is the exact conduct that we don't want > in elected politicians ... yet, it should come as no surprise > that once elected, politicians don't change. > > In other words, political campaigns are based on spite, > defamatory conduct, manipulation of information, lying, > deception, making impossible promises, and general arrogance. > Yet, we expect politicians to become honest, principled, and > "open" once they are elected. Question: How are Canadian political campaigns run? Much is made of the fact that US campaigns are overwhelmingly negative, and usually against the person. In other words, the message isn't "Vote for me, I'm a top bloke", it's "Vote for me because he's an arsehole". Australian campaigns tend to be negative too, but more towards the party or the policy, but that's beginning to change. And Canada? Tony Canadian campaigns above the local level tend to be more "Vote for our party because the other parties are 'arseholes'", though the local MP/MPP campaigns can get just as dirty. Though these people live in the communities they run in so their dirty laundry is well known before hand most times. Also Canadians seem much more aware of the concepts mentioned. That all politicians are liars who only got where they are by selling out the people. The public keeps them under constant scrutiny and criticizes everything they do. The U.S. seems to have lost sight of this reality, with people backing particular parties or politicians who they think are good or even "God chosen". Strange coming from a country founded on a limitless distrust of those in political power and the fresh knowledge that absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'm sure the founding fathers are rolling in their graves -- Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist