David VanHorn wrote: > The advantage gained by a high antenna is hard to overestimate. > The ham guys who do balloons give interesting reports on their ability to > get signals over huge areas. > Different band, diffrent system, but height rules. Yep. http://www.eoss.org - Regularly fly baloons with transmitters on them beyond 90K feet MSL. Or higher... http://www.amsat.org - Orbit. Or "my" highest transmitter: http://www.w0cra.org/info/squaw.html -- which is about 6000 feet above average terrain. The UHF system at that site easily receives a full-quieting analog FM carrier signal from my hand-held transmitter with produces 5W of RF, on its stock 3" high less-than-unity-gain antenna on top of the radio... ... from my basement. I live more than 20 air-miles away from the repeater site. I talk to people on the system regularly from my basement. The receiver on the mountain-top was tested to start to receive a signal injected directly into it at -129 dBm AFTER the duplexer and feedline losses. The filtering system and pre-amplifiers were custom designed specifically for the repeater and site. Mobile coverage (50 Watt radio with decent outside gain antenna, installed properly) from 5 miles East of Laramie, Wyoming to somewhere in the Nebraska pan-handle along I-80, almost all of I-25 north of the Palmer Divide between Denver and Colorado Springs, CO, almost all of I-76 from the Front Range of the Rocky Mtns to Sterling, CO, and of course almost all of the back roads, towns, and cities in northeastern through Central-Eastern Colorado -- barring behind small hills and ridge-lines. That site sees (and "hears") everything for over a 150 mile radius. It's more fun than anyone should be allowed to have with their pants on. Nate -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist