M. Adam Davis wrote: > Your particular message talks about two easy items to dismiss - small > private aircraft generally fly low and slow, and so are less affected > by items in this discussion. They are still relevant, but the > extremes aren't so bad. Grounded planes are not special and have > little to do with this topic except as pertains to how cell phones > might possibly affect the airplane instruments. > > There are several factors in operation here. Nice summary Adam. I have only a small nit-pick, that might be interesting to some reading along. In CDMA phones, the control of tower switching is handled by the back-end equipment, and not the phone. The phone is "told" what to do by the tower it's communicating with. The tower bases these instructions on a number of algorythms, including received signal strength (RSSI), bit-error rate (BER) and other things like pre-programmed knowledge of the terrain/location a particular base station is located in. One of the factors the tower can control in the phone itself is the phone's transmitter power level. This becomes important later. The only time the phone transmits at full power and has complete control of its own transmitter is during an initial power-up "yell" to check in with someone. Even then, it usually is going to listen first for towers it can hear that are presenting a common data channel carrier signal and might have the intelligence to "match power levels" by transmitting a weaker signal if it determines that the RSSI of the tower is strong enough that it probably doesn't need to blast a full-power "hello?" out... I've had discussions with people who design the base-station side and learned a lot, but the phone side is manufacturer-specific unless they're going for a certification that they interoperate "correctly" to a certain level. Most do, but these certification procedures are between them and the base-station manufacturers (and in the case of CDMA - QualComm, the licensors of the technology they created...), and are not available to the general public since they're released under NDA only, along with the license to use the technology. > The reason the cell phone repeater helps with this problem is that it > allows all the cell phones to find a clear "tower" so they aren't > generating a lot of traffic trying to find a better tower, and since > it's inside the skin they can transmit at their lowest power. The > repeater would have to deal with doppler effects from the ground > tower(s) it relays from, but that's easily resolved by proper choice > of tower. The cell phone repeaters being designed for aircraft in-flight cell phone use are usually mini-cell-sites from the phone's perspective. The "airborne base station" (in CDMA systems, especially CDMA 2000 and above) has complete control over the phone's transmitted power level. As you pointed out, no one wants to find out the hard way about how a high power transmitter (or group of them) on-board interact with older avionics, etc. In the "cell phone repeater" type system, if the on-board repeater is up and active, the system will tell the phone not to transmit above a particular power level, and will easily be within range of even the lowest transmitter power level of most consumer-grade cell phone transmitters. Then -- the device will couple the audio over to another flight-certified and designed RF system to carry that signal to the ground in a safe and sane way. Nate -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist