>> And yes, Microchip does recommend variable Vdd for verification of some >> parts. They make a point of distinguishing between "prototype" and >> "production" programmers, with the latter verifying at the Vdd limits. > > Can you give an example of a flash PIC where M'chip recommends this? > I looked through the programming specs once, and only found this > distinction for PROM based chips. Admittedly, my search wasn't > exhaustive. I was recently looking thru a 16F84 programming spec of all things and I saw that message. It was in most programming specs when I started designing programmers, so look for chips like the 16F877. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist