Denny Esterline wrote: > Does anyone have any actual data about how many parts verify at nominal > voltage, but fail verification at the limits? Probably not outside of microchip. I can't imagine a programmer verifying at nominal voltage and the Vdd limits. That would require 3 verification passes. Most programmers out there do only one. A few professional programmers like the PM3 and mine do two. I don't know of a single programmer that does three. > Then it begs to ask the question, what do you do if it fails > verification at one of the Vdd extremes? Consider the PIC not programmed of course. You might want to try again, but if it persists you have a bad PIC. Certainly the PIC needs to be tossed. Whether to toss or repair the product depends on the economic particulars. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist