> >The whole wall wart is thing is so inelegant that it cries out for a > >solution but obviously I'm too stooopid to figure just what that is > >exactly. I can just about guarantee it will be one of those > duh moments > >when we see the solution and whoever does will make a load of cash > >if/when they get it right. > > The "most right" one I have seen so far is the wart supplied > with my Palm. > It is a switcher that is small and light, and has an American > 2 parallel pin connector that folds 90 degrees to tuck it > away for packing. In the folded position you can slide on > adapter plugs for other countries, making it as universal as > it could possibly be - assuming you can get the adapter for > the country you are going to next. > > And at 5V at about an amp it would make a pretty neat test > bench supply. I've got a couple of those from Palm as well, but mine came with a bunch of connectors for the various countries. Apple do them as well. Switchmode plugpacks don't cause too many problems since they're lighter & thinner, but I've only ever seen 5v versions. (Nokia are 6v?) Laptops don't count as they have a cable. You'd think they'd be cheaper than the old ones. Especially with copper at $US7k/ton, down from $US9K! Just goes to show what economies of scale and existing capital can do for you. I doubt the plugpack is ever going to go away. It would be nice to be able to have a standard where stuff can be powered off the PC. There's a high-power variant of USB, essentially a second port that just supplies power. Shows up on Dell laptops. Possibly 'not-a-standard' thing. The USB Hub power supplies are nice too, 4-port ones come with a 2 amp supply, and I've seen 4 amp (!) ones as well. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist