> > > Something that will take a 40 pin ZIF socket, > > there are few programmers that have a big zif socket and support > > lots of pics in it for the simple reason that it's hard > to do, some > > lines need to be very flexible (anything from an input to a power > > supply) which means either lots of discrete transistors or special > > purpose chips. > > > > Or I assume, a PIC and a few less components? > > Can PIC IO lines source/sink enough current at voltages > sufficiantly close to the power rails to power another pic > reliablly? i haven't tried it myself but i somewhat doubt it. No, but I am afraid that it will work on your bench but fail (sometimes) in the field. Same problem as with serial-port-powered programmers. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist