>> Or, just the input series diode and hope for the best till monday. :) >> JA> I put a 4.7 ohm resistor on the input then a big cap (an electrolytic JA> though so i should fix that with a diode as well to protect it from JA> reverse polarity.) then my 7805, been running "flash an LED" now for a JA> few months. Newer small 4cyl jobby though so i don't know if that will JA> make a difference. On my input lines I used a resistor dividor network JA> to bring the 12v down to 5 then I put a 10meg resistor from the junction JA> to the pin. Microchip has an appnote for picking up zero crossings in JA> mains wiring where they use ~12meg worth of resistance connected JA> directly to mains (110V) and let the diode in the PIC handle the currents. Using a bridge rectifier in front of the 7805 and its caps may help ? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist