Complex modulated Gamma Ray signal discovered. (Reported 24 Nov 2006 in J of A&A. ) (Discovered 2005 by HESS). Believed: to be caused by interaction of a massive compact body, probably a black hole at 20% to 40% sun-earth radii. Interaction between the GR and light from the star (LS5039 visible object) result in particle pair creation and hence GR annihilation adding to the modulation caused by the orbital system. http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.nl.html?pid=21359 http://www.pparc.ac.uk/Nw/LS5039.asp More detail plus pictures http://www.pparc.ac.uk/Nw/hess.asp Good stuff, some graphs. Picture of HESS's 4 optical receivers (located in Namibia) http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/hfm/HESS/public/PressRelease/LS5039Press-2006/PressRelease_E.html Their confidence, ability and willingness to pick a sine wave out of such noisy data would do justice to any engineer :-). Undoubtedly the claimed signal is there, and quite possibly all the sub effect as well, but at an SNR of about 1 and standard deviation of way-up-there the analysis must be interesting. Data points on their graph represent levels from half hour integrations of optical 'Cerenkov radiation' flashes detected by the array of 4 x 13 metre HESS receivers/telescopes. What is of interest is that throughout the whole article they use the terms "light" and "Gamma Ray(s)" repeatedly but never explain in any way to their target audience that these are identical phenomena (ie photons) differentiated only by their energy levels. Conversely, when [*] Harwell [**] want to build a Gamma Ray source they ALWAYS describe the GR as light or (just occasionally) "hard X-Rays" and never never use the term "Gamma Ray" - not in the company name ("Diamond Light Source" AFAIR), not in their publicity blurbs, not in their website info (***) and not even in their "for public consumption" scientific papers. One scientist discussing the Diamond Source had the temerity to go so far as to call the output "light" (his quotes). No doubt he has been suitably castigated and had his publication rights reviewed. Can't go scaring/informing Joe Public. It's a shame that when PPARC and SpaceREf want to talk down to the public that they obscure (I'm sure without thinking) primary information. It's par for the course when Harwell want to obfuscate what they are doing from the gaze of the general public that they go to extreme lengths to take the exactly opposite approach. Russell [*] - [the liars at] [**] - [who want to hide what they are doing from the uninformed so that they don't cause more of a stir than they can help, even though anyone with half an idea of anything related knows what they are doing] *** - AFAIR the term "Gamma Ray" occurs once on their site in one of their FAQs in a peripheral context (BIMBW). -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist