tachyon_1@email.com wrote: > Well, thanks in advance for any help, take care all. I'll keep it short and sweet. Throw the board for it in the trashcan and save the parts for something more useful. Then buy a better programmer. The thing truly is that bad. Nate -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist