> I know there are several other > home build models I could be using, but if my interest in > PICs goes beyond the experimental stage I'll save up and buy > a Picstart + instead. Don't restric yourself to those two choices, there are lots of alternatives that are more reliable than an ElCheapo and much cheaper than a PS+: pickit2, Wisp628, EasyProg, DIY150, etc. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist