Hello, >From the Max232 datasheet, from one of the shematics page17. I see that R1in(pin13) and R2in(pin8) are pulled to ground via a 5kohm resistor.. when the max232 chip is not hooked to the serialport the partnered pins R2out and R1out are defaulted to On +5volt state.. I need this pin to to default low 0volts.. Is there a hardware approach to do this or should I just invert the inputs via software when querying for pin values when needed. thanks. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist