Thank you for the information. "Of course, you could also self-certify anyway without testing, but if you get called on it and the testing comes up badly then you're in a very poor position." We would very much like to avoid being in that position. :) I'll give both companies a call, probably on Tuesday. Thanks again! Best regards, Vitaliy ----- Original Message ----- = From: "M. Adam Davis" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 15:04 Subject: Re: [EE] Certifying a product The process usually goes this way: You contact them and chat about what certifications you're after and cost estimates. They send you a few forms about your company, the product, and certification information. You set up a day for testing, and send in a unit or two as well as a complete test setup if your unit depends on other equipment to operate (or is normally connected to other equipment during normal use) They do the testing, and if there are problems contact you the day of or the next day. If there are no problems you get the unit(s) back within a week of testing, and reports the following week - sometimes longer. Safety testing is much more involved, generally requiring regular manufacturing facility inspections. This has been my experience with TUV. They are very helpful in getting information to you - feel free to call them up and just chat about what you need and they'll give you a lot of information before you have to commit to anything. 2004/104/EC - Automotive radio interference EN60950-1 - General requirements for safety of IT equipment EN55022 - Radio interference characteristics of IT equipment (does your device radiate too much RF) EN55024 - Immunity characteristics of IT equipment (Can your device operate in a very bad RF environment) EN60950-1 might be bothersome depending on how strict it is. Other than that, yeah, send it away to them, send them a few thousand dollars, and you can self-certify with confidence. Of course, you could also self-certify anyway without testing, but if you get called on it and the testing comes up badly then you're in a very poor position. -Adam On 11/22/06, Vitaliy wrote: > Mike, > > Sorry about the tag. They say that not getting enough sleep is like being > drunk. %-) > > Searching for "2004/104/EC Phoenix" finds a lab in Germany, unfortunately = > I > need one here, in Arizona. :) Searching for "2004/104/EC Minneapolis" on > Google produces one non-relevant result. > > That's fine, however, if distance is the only problem. How does the = > process > work with Environ? Can I just mail them a list of the specs, and the = > device, > and have them take care of the whole thing? Or is it, as I suspect, a bit > more involved than that? > > Best regards, > > Vitaliy > > PS What, I'm not supposed to say "Google" now?! I must have missed the > thread where Russell rechristened it.. ;-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hord" > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:14 > Subject: [EE] Certifying a product > > > Added tag... > > Sure. We get our environmental testing done at a company > here in town called Environ- http://www.environlab.com/ > > They're local, so I assume that most other major metro areas > should have similar companies. TUV also has testing labs > near or in most big metro areas- they do EMI testing, both > immunity and radiation. > > I'd do a G-search for the appropriate spec and your closest > big city's name, for example, "2004/104/EC Minneapolis". > > Mike H. > > On 11/22/06, Vitaliy wrote: > > Recently I spoke to a customer who was asking whether our products have > > the > > following certifications: > > > > =B7 2004/104/EC > > =B7 EN60950-1 > > =B7 EN55022 > > =B7 EN55024 > > > > Basically, they're looking for minimum environmental and regulation > > requirements (Europe and Israel). 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