On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Jason wrote: > the 10f sounds perfect. > > As I understand it, I'll need to use ICSP (or buy a very expensive > clip). Microchip sells a ~$36 adaptor; that's annoying but not the "very expensive" I'm used to seeing for SMT adaptors ($100+) And there are other alternatives that you can make yourself: http://www.oyajin.jp/~toko/pic/0070/index.html BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist