Someone may chioose to correct me but:- Crystals are cut to operate in different modes. The most common (at least for micros) is the fundumental mode where the crystal operates at the frequency corresponding to the physical dimensions of the quartz. However, the cut can be slightly modified to operate in a overtone mode - essentialy at a harmonic of the fundamental. So a third overtomne will crystal is designed to operate at 3 times the fundamental , a fifth overtone at 5 times etc. The crystal will however, under the right (or wrong) conditions oscillate at the fundamental or presumably at a different overtone from what was intended. Therefore, if the oscillator is not designed for the overtone mode, and has sufficient bandwidth, you can get the wrong frequency. (You can also get a fundimental component in addition to an overtone output but that's a different story) Overtone mode crystals are mostly used in VHF and UHF radio systems where it is advantage to operate the crystal at as high a frequency as possible to minimise the frequency multiplier stages. If a crystal was cut to operate at 100 MHz or so in fundamental mode it might not be physiacally strong enough to withstand the vibration requirements, but a 33MHz crystal operating in third overtone mode would be OK. Typically, crystals oscillating above 30MHz or so are operated in overtone mode. Hope this assists. RP On 15/11/06, John Chung wrote: > 3rd overtone? Not sure what you mean. > > John > > --- Richard Prosser wrote: > > > It's not a crystal designed to work in 3rd overtone > > mode is it? > > RP > > > > On 15/11/06, Przemyslaw Lopaciuk > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I'm using PIC18F8621 with 40 MHz crystal and I've > > just tested it with an oscilloscope. > > > The odd thing is that it shows that the frequency > > is about 13MHz on both outputs (X1 and X2). > > > What could be the reason of it? Load capacitance? > > > > > > I would be very grateful for every advice. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Sam > > > ########################################### > > > > > > This message has been scanned by F-Secure > > Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. > > > For more information, connect to > > http://www.f-secure.com/ > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > View/change your membership options at > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist