Olin having some problems with the files from your current development environment, using the files dated 14 Sept. having nothing that was specifically needed in the old embedinc directory, I cleaned it out of all folders and files, and started afresh, with a new install. If I install just the "install_picdev" and run "make_pic_project" with suitable args then I get the following messages. ************* Start of Command Window ********** Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\abp28>cd \embedinc C:\embedinc>cd source C:\embedinc\source>cd admrc C:\embedinc\source\ADMRC>make_pic_project Missing project name parameter. C:\embedinc\source\ADMRC>make_pic_project ctl 16f628a 'upcase_arg' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'downcase_arg' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'slink' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. File not found. File name was "(cog)source/pic/build_qqq_expic.bat" with suffix string "". Error on trying to open input file "(cog)source/pic/build_qqq_expic.bat" for text read. *** Program aborted on error. *** 'slink' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. C:\embedinc\source\ADMRC> ******************** End of Command Window ***************** If I then install the public source, all the error messages except the ones about build_qqq_expic.bat go away, as the other files are included in this package. Unfortunately the build_qqq_expic file doesn't seem to be in either package. It would seem prudent to have all these missing files in the picdev package, so people not wishing to have the public source installed can make a complete development installation without needing to install the public source package as well. The other problem I have is if an attempt is made to create a project in a directory that is a subdirectory of a directory name that has spaces in it (e.g. "C:\Documents and Settings\") as the batch files cannot handle the spaces, and separate the words, attempting to use them as commands. I don't know if there is anything that can be done about this when using batch files, I haven't attempted to modify them to include the directories in quotes or anything like that, but this is a minor annoyance that can be worked around. Thank you for your largesse in allowing us to use your development environment. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist