Shawn Mulligan wrote: > If you're lucky enough, you'll get a chance to work with 'real' genius > someday -- a rare treat... and maybe a little will rub off. While this is nice when it happens, it's rare. In the meantime, take from whoever you can whatever they have to offer -- and give to whoever you can while you're at it. Plenty of people around with plenty to offer of what you want, and plenty in need of something you can give. And don't focus on the things you don't like. And don't forget... if you got hurt, it's because there was something to hurt. The one most important thing to learn from the 'real' people (IMO) is how they just don't give power to the things they don't need. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist